we talked about mental health yesterday. >> but our taxes are at historic lows, katon, our taxes are at historic lows, and the fact is, there isn't any other entity big enough and worthy enough and willing enough to give the kind of stimulus necessary, right? what we've seen is that private industry, despite its huge profits, is holding on to job creation, it's holding on to dollars, it's not investing, and when you shut the government down, they become even less willing to. >> and melissa, to your point, and katon, all of these dollars, they're not going to be saved. they're going to go plowing right back into the economy, to the small business, to the grocery stores. >> so they can then hire another -- >> do you agree that we've got to start prioritizing our spending some time -- >> yes, i would say we prioritize feeding children! >>> coming up next, the faces behind the figures from the s.n.a.p. cuts. we'll meet just a few of the 47 million people in the crosshairs. and if you missed it last night, don't worry, because we're going to show you how scandalous things got on "saturday